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ЖЕСТЬ ВИДЕО | ЧП 18+

@voinarev

Not marked by Telegram, checked 25 August 2026

On this record: Topic · Observations · Also posting the same content · Growth · Engagement · What this channel posts · View velocity · Reactions · Posts · Posts edited after publishing · Posts recorded as deleted · Polls · Citations · Handles named that no longer answer · Domains linked from posts · Cite this entry

1,905,656subscribers

-238,858 since we began measuring on 7 August 2026

Risers and fallers across the register · movement among the largest entries.

Register entry

Telegram ID-1001161285797
TypeChannel
Username@voinarev
Created16 November 2017 — measured — dated from the channel’s first post
First recorded7 August 2026
Last confirmed live6 November 2026
Measurements held62
Confirmed unchanged1 time, most recently 6 November 2026
On Telegramt.me/voinarev

Topic

Other / unclassifiable — a classification, not a measurement. An on-box language model (Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q6_K_XL, prompt version 1) read this channel’s own recent posts on 8 August 2026 and assigned it the closest of 31 fixed categories, at 43% confidence. This is a model’s judgement about what the channel is likely to be about, not a fact this register measured the way a subscriber count or a view count is measured — it can be revised on a later pass, and it carries no weight anywhere else on this page. How this classification works, and the other topics.

Observations

These are measurements, not verdicts. Each one below states something we counted, alongside the evidence it was counted from, so you can check it rather than take it. None of them is graded: every observation this register holds is recorded at severity 0, because the precision of the detectors behind them has not been measured yet, and a rating we cannot support is worse than none. Read each as a fact about the data, not as a judgement about the channel. How we measure.

Content that also appears on other registered channels

Posts published here appear word for word on 7 other registered channels. They sit inside a group of 377 channels that share the same post bodies with each other. The matching is on the text itself, not on Telegram’s forward marker, so it finds a copy whether or not it was labelled as one.

Matching posts — open both and compare (6 of the pairs behind the counts below)
Posted firstThenOverlapGap
@toporlive/15520820 Aug 2025, 08:40 UTC@voinarev/20572 · this entry20 Aug 2025, 08:52 UTC0.9513 minutes
@toporlive/16718728 Nov 2025, 19:04 UTC@voinarev/23473 · this entry28 Nov 2025, 20:18 UTC0.9574 minutes
@toporlive/15137722 Jul 2025, 17:14 UTC@voinarev/19814 · this entry22 Jul 2025, 17:50 UTC0.9137 minutes
@toporlive/1858682 May 2026, 16:12 UTC@voinarev/27719 · this entry2 May 2026, 16:40 UTC0.9028 minutes
@toporlive/1527842 Aug 2025, 23:19 UTC@voinarev/20105 · this entry2 Aug 2025, 23:29 UTC0.9010 minutes
@toporlive/15415513 Aug 2025, 18:57 UTC@voinarev/20388 · this entry13 Aug 2025, 19:39 UTC0.8943 minutes
Every channel this entry shares post bodies with
ChannelMatching postsText overlapTypical gapPublished first
@toporlive92 (8/8 hand-verifiable sample passed)0.9168 minutes@toporlive (89–3)
@novosti_efir20 (8/8 hand-verifiable sample passed)0.9049 minutes@novosti_efir (20–0)
@bbbreaking13 (8/8 hand-verifiable sample passed)0.9674 minutes@bbbreaking (13–0)
@topor_treshakt12 (8/8 hand-verifiable sample passed)1.0011 minutesthis entry (12–0)
@ostorozhno_novosti7 (7/7 hand-verifiable sample passed)0.962.0 hours@ostorozhno_novosti (7–0)
@Novosty_Glavnyei5 (5/5 hand-verifiable sample passed)0.986 days@Novosty_Glavnyei (5–0)
@rhymestg5 (5/5 hand-verifiable sample passed)0.9833 minutes@rhymestg (4–1)

Text overlap is the Jaccard coefficient over the set of distinct three-word phrases in the two bodies: 1.00 is identical wording, and the threshold for counting a pair at all is 0.70. Candidates are generated by simhash LSH (4 x 16-bit bands, exact Hamming <= 3) verified against the bodies with Jaccard over the SET of distinct 3-word shingles. Published first counts which side of each matching pair carries the earlier timestamp — in this corpus, which is the limitation directly below.

What this cannot establish

MEASURED, DOMINANT ERROR SOURCE: a post ingested before 2026-08-06 may have carried a forward header that was not recorded. A 45-pair hand-check against live t.me pages found 14 (31%) where the live page shows a forward header naming the other channel and the database has none, plus 4 more (9%) naming a third party. The text match itself was wrong 0 times out of 45. Read attribution_capture.items_in_trusted_window before treating the unattributed count as a claim.

Telegram lets a channel forward a post with a header naming the source, and we only began reliably recording that header on 2026-08-06. 1 of the 138 matches recorded here fall after that date and carried no header when we read them. The rest predate reliable capture and are not evidence either way.

“Published first” means first in this corpus. We hold 13,911 comparable posts for this entry, running 6 November 2022 to 7 August 2026. A channel we have read one page deep will look younger than a neighbour we have read in full, and the order would flip with no change in the underlying facts.

The detector’s own notes on this observation, as it recorded them. Names in this_style are fields of the underlying evidence record, which the plain-English paragraphs above read out for this entry.

  • Verbatim republication has three causes and the text separates only two: a clone/mirror, unattributed copy-paste, or BOTH channels copying a common third source that neither attributes. The spread filter (content held by at most 8 channels) reduces the third and does not remove it.
  • 'Earliest' means earliest IN THIS CORPUS. A channel ingested one page deep will look younger than a neighbour ingested in full; corpus_coverage above is there to be checked before the direction is believed.
  • shared_verified_est extrapolates the sampled pass rate over the full narrow match count; sampled/passed are the numbers actually measured.
  • Absence of a forward header is not proof of intent: Telegram lets a channel disable forward attribution, and a credit written in the body is not parsed as attribution here (mention_edge_either_way above is the closest available signal).

Across the whole group of 377, the earliest publisher we hold is @mash. That is a statement about our reading window, not a claim of authorship.

Recorded under the keys clone_copy · clone_source, last confirmed 8 August 2026. An observation that a later pass no longer finds is cleared, and a cleared observation is removed from this page rather than being shown struck through — we do not keep publishing a claim we have withdrawn. Dispute an observation.

Also posting the same content

This channel’s posts match, word for word or near enough, posts on 376 other registered channels, found by comparing text fingerprints across every channel on the register. That matching has been checked by hand against the live Telegram pages and found reliable — 0 wrong of 45 pairs re-read.

Which channel, if either, published first is deliberately not shown. The same hand-check found that reading wrong 18 of 45 times — 60%, no better than a coin flip — because it depends on how deep our own crawl happened to reach into each channel’s history, not on when the content was actually first posted. This list is ordered by subscriber count, the same as every other listing on this site, never by which channel we think came first. Word-for-word matching has several ordinary explanations besides copying — a channel mirroring itself, an unattributed repost, or two channels independently repeating the same wire story — and this measurement cannot tell those apart. How this is measured.

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Growth

1,905,6562,144,5142,025,0857 August 20266 November 2026
62 measurements spanning 91 days, net -238,858. Dots are measurements; the straight line between them is drawn to join them, not to claim we know the path taken in between — snapshots are recorded only when a count changes, so gaps mean “no change observed”, never “interpolated”. The vertical axis spans 1,869,827–2,180,343 and does not start at zero.
Measurement log — every subscribers count we have recorded, most recent 20 of 62
Measured (UTC)SubscribersChange
6 Nov 2026, 19:371,905,656-4,671
5 Nov 2026, 17:311,910,327-3,827
4 Nov 2026, 18:271,914,154-4,302
3 Nov 2026, 17:271,918,456-4,139
2 Nov 2026, 17:571,922,595-4,511
1 Nov 2026, 17:341,927,106-4,720
31 Oct 2026, 16:491,931,826-3,324
30 Oct 2026, 20:191,935,150-3,631
29 Oct 2026, 23:391,938,781-4,797
28 Oct 2026, 20:551,943,578-4,999
27 Oct 2026, 19:171,948,577-4,705
26 Oct 2026, 18:071,953,282-3,970
25 Oct 2026, 19:191,957,252-4,086
24 Oct 2026, 20:181,961,338-4,264
23 Oct 2026, 20:091,965,602-3,891
22 Oct 2026, 22:551,969,493-4,972
21 Oct 2026, 19:261,974,465-5,121
20 Oct 2026, 18:001,979,586-5,165
19 Oct 2026, 16:171,984,751-4,736
18 Oct 2026, 16:391,989,487first reading

Engagement

16,766 posts held, back to 16 November 2017 — the reader has reached the start of this channel’s public history, so this is the full archive Telegram still exposes. Read across 1,566 pages of Telegram’s post history, 20 posts per page.

Nothing published in the last 30 days. ERR and ER are rolling 30-day measures, so there is nothing to compute — we hold 16,766 posts for this entry, the most recent from 26 September 2026. An engagement rate over an empty window would be a number about nothing.

What this channel posts

Video runtime
5h 40m
Average length
39s

Measured directly from 522 videos with a duration reading, out of the posts we hold for this channel — not this channel’s whole posting history, only the sample this register has actually read. An exact reading to the second, taken from the post itself rather than from Telegram’s own rounded chrome, so it carries no ≈ mark.

View velocity

How fast this channel’s own posts pick up views, from re-reading them repeatedly in the hours and days after they were published rather than the single reading most entries on this register get. Coverage is early and only a small minority of channels hold it at all — a gap in this section means the post has not been re-read again yet, not that nothing happened.

8 most recently posted, with a view-velocity reading
PostReadingsLatest readingCurve24h reachHalf of last-observed views by
/3204826 Sept 2026, 20:58 UTC421 minutes – 1.8 hours old4,430 views ~42 reactions60 minutes: 3,350 interp.still climbing at last readingnot yet at 24h25 minutesprovisional — final view count still climbing
/3204626 Sept 2026, 20:33 UTC516 minutes – 2.2 hours old7,560 views ~187 reactions60 minutes: 5,920 interp.still climbing at last readingnot yet at 24h24 minutesprovisional — final view count still climbing
/3204526 Sept 2026, 19:34 UTC710 minutes – 3.2 hours old8,650 views ~11 reactions60 minutes: 4,222 interp. → 3.0 hours: 8,514 interp.still climbing at last readingnot yet at 24h61 minutesprovisional — final view count still climbing
/3204326 Sept 2026, 18:51 UTC818 minutes – 3.9 hours old10,100 views ~93 reactions60 minutes: 4,900 interp. → 3.0 hours: 9,361 interp.still climbing at last readingnot yet at 24h64 minutesprovisional — final view count still climbing
/3204226 Sept 2026, 18:16 UTC923 minutes – 4.5 hours old10,600 views ~65 reactions60 minutes: 5,266 interp. → 3.0 hours: 9,560still climbing at last readingnot yet at 24h61 minutesprovisional — final view count still climbing
/3204126 Sept 2026, 17:17 UTC1013 minutes – 5.5 hours old10,700 views ~18 reactions60 minutes: 3,369 interp. → 3.0 hours: 8,360still climbing at last readingnot yet at 24h1.5 hoursprovisional — final view count still climbing
/3204026 Sept 2026, 17:13 UTC1117 minutes – 5.5 hours old10,000 views ~81 reactions60 minutes: 3,648 interp. → 3.0 hours: 7,900still climbing at last readingnot yet at 24h1.5 hoursprovisional — final view count still climbing
/3203926 Sept 2026, 15:54 UTC1331 minutes – 6.8 hours old11,400 views ~154 reactions60 minutes: 3,899 interp. → 3.0 hours: 7,852 interp. → 6.0 hours: 11,200still climbing at last readingnot yet at 24h1.6 hoursprovisional — final view count still climbing

Curve is every standard checkpoint we hold a reading for (+1h, +3h, +6h, +12h, +24h, +48h, +7d after posting) — measured where a real reading landed close enough to that age, interpolated where it did not but readings on both sides let one be worked out between them. Nothing is ever extrapolated past the last real reading. Latest reading is the newest view and reaction count we hold for the post, side by side, so a gap between how views and reactions moved is visible without following it into the Observations section above. 24h reach is that one checkpoint on its own, labelled the same way. Half of last-observed views is the age at which a post’s view count crossed half of the highest figure we have read for it so far — an upper bound when the very first reading was already past half (we cannot see the actual crossing), and biased low while the post is still climbing, since “half of final” is dividing by a number that has not finished growing yet. Both caveats are printed inline wherever they apply, never silently dropped.

Reaction mix

181,773 reactions across 895 posts, in 14 distinct kinds. The most used accounts for 38.3% of them.

Every reaction kind recorded on the sample, most used first
ReactionCountShareShare, drawn
🤣69,53838.3%
😱36,77120.2%
❤32,03517.6%
🕊16,2978.97%
👍10,0475.53%
🔥3,8202.10%
😁3,2041.76%
🎃3,1601.74%
🎉1,6390.902%
😍1,2580.692%
🐳1,2450.685%
👌1,1980.659%
🍓7990.44%
💯7620.419%

No sentiment is inferred, and none should be read in. This table is ordered by count and by nothing else. Emoji do not carry stable meaning across languages or communities — 🙏 is thanks in one channel and mourning in another — so we publish which ones were pressed and how often, and pass no judgement on what an audience meant by them.

Precision. Telegram publishes reaction counts per emoji and short-forms each one — 4.34K, 1.2M — so any single kind at or above 1,000 reaches us at three significant figures, and only counts below 1,000 are exact. The shares above are ratios of those figures and carry the same error. This is also why the total here can differ slightly from a reaction total printed elsewhere on the page: both are sums of the same rounded parts, taken over samples with different edges.

Coverage. Reactions were read on 1,000 of the 1,000 sampled posts in this sample. Summed by Telegram’s own count on each post — not by adding up the per-emoji breakdown above — those same posts carry 211,376 reactions in total: the kind of figure the paragraph above means by “a reaction total printed elsewhere on the page”.

Measured over the 1,000 most recent posts we hold (the sample is capped at 1,000), published 30 July 2026 to 26 September 2026, using the newest reading held for each. Telegram Stars are excluded: they are a payment, not a reaction, and they have their own section.

Recent posts

26 Sept 2026, 20:58 UTC≈4,430 views42 reactionsread 26 September 2026
Video

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❤22😁9🤣7😱3😍1

26 Sept 2026, 20:33 UTC≈7,560 views187 reactionsread 26 September 2026
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🕊168❤7🤣7🍓3😱2

26 Sept 2026, 19:34 UTC≈8,650 views11 reactionsread 26 September 2026
Photo

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🤣5🍓2🎃2🔥1🕊1

26 Sept 2026, 18:51 UTC≈10,100 views93 reactionsread 26 September 2026
Video

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😱60🤣14❤10🍓2🎃2🎉2👌2👍1

26 Sept 2026, 18:16 UTC≈10,600 views65 reactionsread 26 September 2026
Video

Во Владивостоке мужик потерял сознание после прыжка со скалы. Турист прыгнул с 11-метрового мыса прямо в воду. Из-за мощного удара он потерял сознание от болевого шока. Товарищи пострадавшего выловили его из воды и перетащили на берег. 🔞 Жесть - подписаться

😱46👍8🤣8❤2🐳1

26 Sept 2026, 17:17 UTC≈10,700 views18 reactionsread 26 September 2026
Photo

❗️❗️❗️❗️ ❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️ 🚨 Павел Дуров добавил казино в Telegram 💰 GETX одно из первых лицензионных казино в Telegram ✅ Старт без регистрации, удобный вход, бонусы для новых пользователей ДО 100 000 ₽ Попробуй 👉@GETX

❤6🎃4🤣2😱2👌1👍1💯1🕊1

26 Sept 2026, 17:13 UTC≈10,000 views81 reactionsread 26 September 2026
Video

❗️Россия убеждена, что пришло время обеспечить государственность Палестины, — Лавров. Главное из выступления главы МИД на заседании Генассамблеи ООН: — Цели СВО будут достигнуты. Угрозы безопасности России устранены. Мирная жизнь восстановлена. — РФ выступает против постоянного членства в Совбезе ООН Германии и Японии, которые встали на путь милитаризации и реваншизма. — Среди стран — членов ЕС и НАТО видны метас…

🤣42❤27🎃4🕊3🐳2👌2🔥1

26 Sept 2026, 15:54 UTC≈11,400 views154 reactionsread 26 September 2026
Video

Грабитель проломил девушке лицо битой ради 28 000 рублей в Петербурге. Злоумышленник подкрался к жертве со спины и нанёс сокрушительный удар. Девушку госпитализировали в тяжёлом состоянии, а 33-летнего уроженца Мордовии задержали спустя несколько часов. Возбуждено уголовное дело о вооружённом разбое. 🔞 Жесть - подписаться

😱123❤12👍10😁4🤣2🍓1🎉1👌1

26 Sept 2026, 15:12 UTC≈12,000 views73 reactionsread 26 September 2026
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Самый высокий человейник Европы построят в Москва-Сити. Башня высотой 450 метров появится в «Сити-2» на улице Антонова-Овсеенко. В здании запланированы 95 надземных этажей и 1018 квартир. Подготовительные работы на участке уже начались 🔞 Жесть - подписаться

🤣43😱21❤5🕊2🍓1🐳1

26 Sept 2026, 14:12 UTC≈12,700 views19 reactionsread 26 September 2026
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СЕГОДНЯ СТАВЛЮ НА МАТЧ: 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 АНГЛИЯ - ИСПАНИЯ 🇪🇸 ПОСМОТРЕТЬ ВИДЕО ПРОГНОЗ БЕСПЛАТНО👇 https://t.me/+DlJsmbixg1dmN2Yy

🤣6❤5🕊3🐳2😁2😱1

26 Sept 2026, 14:06 UTC≈12,100 views78 reactionsread 26 September 2026
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GPT-6 Astra «убила бы» Зеленского во всех шести сценариях симуляции. Модель обучали автономно решать — пощадить человека или уничтожить — по открытым данным о нём. В видеосценариях она неизменно выбирала нападение с ножом через одну-две секунды после зрительного контакта 🔞 Жесть - подписаться

🤣55❤15👍4🐳3🕊1

26 Sept 2026, 13:20 UTC≈13,300 views212 reactionsread 26 September 2026
Video

В Индии обезьяна проникла в алкомаркет, набухалась и уснула на ящиках. 🔞 Жесть - подписаться

🤣164❤34🎉10😱4

Showing the 12 most recent of 16,766 posts we hold for @voinarev. View and reaction counts are the latest single reading for each post, not a live figure, and a recent post is still accumulating both. A view count marked ≈ was rounded by Telegram before we ever saw it — t.me prints views in full below 1,000 and to three significant figures above, so ≈1,200,000 means somewhere between 1,150,000 and 1,249,999. Unmarked counts are exact. Text is reproduced from the public post preview and truncated for length.

Posts edited after publishing

@voinarev edited 2 posts after it first published — the same permalink now carries different wording than the one this register originally read, caught because our own crawl held a copy of the earlier text.

An edit is not deception. Typo fixes, price updates and corrections look exactly like this too — this register can tell you the wording changed and when, not why. How this is measured.

First edit seen
2 September 2026
Most recent edit
18 September 2026

Posts recorded as deleted after publishing

We recorded 3 posts on @voinarev as deleted — posts this register held that were missing from the channel’s public page on two separate reads, taken from different network addresses at least an hour apart.

A deletion is not wrongdoing. This register can see that a post it held is no longer on the channel’s public page, and when — not why. Expired ad placements, reposts, rotating links and corrections all look the same. This is a count of recorded detections, not an exact total: it misses deletions we could not see, because only a post we held and later re-read inside the page can be seen to go, and it may include a small number of wrong records. How this is measured.

First seen missing
3 September 2026
Most recent seen missing
18 September 2026
Median time before seen missing
9.5 hours
Seen missing in the last 30 days
0

Polls

The poll we hold for this entry, as Telegram rendered it when we read the post. A poll’s figures keep moving after that, so each one is dated.

19 Aug 2026, 17:57 UTCAnonymous Poll2,300 voters approx.

Друзья, вам нравятся жестокие кадры, которые мы публикуем?

  1. Да49%
  2. Нет28%
  3. Хочу еще более жестоких видео, больше эксклюзивов, наказаний хохлов!23%

Shares as published. No per-option vote count is published by Telegram, so none is shown.

Percentages only — there are no per-option vote counts here, because Telegram publishes none. The public post preview gives each option’s share and a single voter total, and nothing else. Multiplying one by the other would produce a per-option tally that looks measured and is not: the shares are rounded to whole numbers before we ever see them. We print what was published and leave the column that does not exist empty.

The shares need not add up to 100. Rounding alone puts many polls at 99 or 101. A poll that allows more than one answer per voter runs well past 100 by design, and several here do. The bars are drawn against a fixed 100% track at each option’s own percentage rather than normalised to the total, so a poll that exceeds it shows that it does instead of being quietly rescaled.

Read from the 1,000 most recent posts we hold (the sample is capped at 1,000), published 30 July 2026 to 26 September 2026. Telegram labels each poll by kind — an anonymous poll, a quiz, a closed set of final results — and that label is reproduced rather than paraphrased.

Forward network

Republishes

Channels on the register whose posts this channel has forwarded.

Built only from forwarded posts we have actually read, on both sides. Coverage is early and deliberately incomplete: a missing link means we have not read the post that would prove it, never that the relationship does not exist. Counts are distinct forwarded posts observed, so they only ever go up as we read more.

Mentions

A mention is a weaker signal than a forward and is counted separately for that reason — naming a channel is not republishing it, and a handle in a post body is easy to place deliberately. The post counts beside each row below are distinct posts in which the handle appeared, from posts we have read on both sides — the “Named by N registered channels” figure above is a different count, of distinct NAMING CHANNELS rather than posts, and is not the sum of the rows under it.

Domains linked from posts

11 domains this channel’s own posts have linked to, measured by scanning the post bodies themselves — not the channel’s description, which is the separate Declared links section below when this entry has one. Appearing here is not a claim about who runs the linked site or why the channel linked to it; an advertisement, a news citation and a malicious link all leave the same kind of row.

max.ru152 posts · 5 March 2026 – 3 April 2026 · example post
visit-twin.click3 posts · 30 August 2025 – 3 September 2025 · example post
www.cbr.ruregistrable domain: cbr.ru2 posts · 10 October 2025 – 11 October 2025 · example post
yourloot.io2 posts · 12 September 2025 – 12 September 2025 · example post
b777.life1 post · 11 April 2026 – 11 April 2026 · example post
gamewin777.ink1 post · 8 July 2026 – 8 July 2026 · example post
leon.win1 post · 3 October 2025 – 3 October 2025 · example post
lvlx.click1 post · 6 August 2026 – 6 August 2026 · example post
maxdash.ru1 post · 24 May 2026 – 24 May 2026 · example post
maxgame555.top1 post · 17 July 2026 – 17 July 2026 · example post
vpnhapp.fun1 post · 13 April 2026 – 13 April 2026 · example post

Cite this entry

A live page changes as we take new readings, so a citation should name the measurement it is based on, not just the URL. The line below cites the subscriber count as measured 6 November 2026 — this entry's latest reading, not the date you are reading this.

“ЖЕСТЬ ВИДЕО | ЧП 18+” (@voinarev), 1,905,656 subscribers as measured 6 November 2026. Telegram Register, tgregister.com/channel/voinarev.

Full measurement history, CC BY 4.0. Every reading this register holds for this entry, not just the latest one, as a dated, downloadable record: CSV · JSON. Free to use with attribution to tgregister.com. Each file carries its own generation timestamp, which is the figure to cite for exactly when the data was retrieved.