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Возврат переплат по кредиту

@vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam

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7,060subscribers

-337 since we began measuring on 7 August 2026

Risers and fallers across the register · movement among entries of 3,162–10,000.

Register entry

Telegram ID-1001182537069
TypeChannel
Username@vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam
Created15 October 2021 — measured — cross-checked against a third-party dataset (ext.tg_channel)
First recorded7 August 2026
Last confirmed live26 September 2026
Measurements held16
Confirmed unchanged1 time, most recently 26 September 2026
On Telegramt.me/vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam

Topic

Other / unclassifiable — a classification, not a measurement. An on-box language model (Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q6_K_XL, prompt version 1) read this channel’s own recent posts on 11 August 2026 and assigned it the closest of 31 fixed categories, at 52% confidence. This is a model’s judgement about what the channel is likely to be about, not a fact this register measured the way a subscriber count or a view count is measured — it can be revised on a later pass, and it carries no weight anywhere else on this page. How this classification works, and why it has no browse page of its own yet.

Observations

These are measurements, not verdicts. Each one below states something we counted, alongside the evidence it was counted from, so you can check it rather than take it. None of them is graded: every observation this register holds is recorded at severity 0, because the precision of the detectors behind them has not been measured yet, and a rating we cannot support is worse than none. Read each as a fact about the data, not as a judgement about the channel. How we measure.

Content that also appears on other registered channels

Posts published here appear word for word on 1 other registered channel. The matching is on the text itself, not on Telegram’s forward marker, so it finds a copy whether or not it was labelled as one.

Matching posts — open both and compare (5 of the pairs behind the counts below)
Posted firstThenOverlapGap
@vozvrat_strahovok_po_kreditam/2874 Aug 2026, 15:17 UTC@vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam/1802 · this entry4 Aug 2026, 15:17 UTC1.00under a minute
@vozvrat_strahovok_po_kreditam/2916 Aug 2026, 14:30 UTC@vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam/1805 · this entry6 Aug 2026, 14:32 UTC1.002 minutes
@vozvrat_strahovok_po_kreditam/2926 Aug 2026, 14:31 UTC@vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam/1806 · this entry6 Aug 2026, 14:32 UTC1.00under a minute
@vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam/1797 · this entry2 Aug 2026, 07:03 UTC@vozvrat_strahovok_po_kreditam/2812 Aug 2026, 07:04 UTC0.9972 seconds
@vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam/1801 · this entry4 Aug 2026, 15:16 UTC@vozvrat_strahovok_po_kreditam/2864 Aug 2026, 15:17 UTC0.98under a minute
Every channel this entry shares post bodies with
ChannelMatching postsText overlapTypical gapPublished first
@vozvrat_strahovok_po_kreditam5 (5/5 hand-verifiable sample passed)0.99under a minute@vozvrat_strahovok_po_kreditam (3–2)

Text overlap is the Jaccard coefficient over the set of distinct three-word phrases in the two bodies: 1.00 is identical wording, and the threshold for counting a pair at all is 0.70. Candidates are generated by simhash LSH (4 x 16-bit bands, exact Hamming <= 3) verified against the bodies with Jaccard over the SET of distinct 3-word shingles. Published first counts which side of each matching pair carries the earlier timestamp — in this corpus, which is the limitation directly below.

What this cannot establish

MEASURED, DOMINANT ERROR SOURCE: a post ingested before 2026-08-06 may have carried a forward header that was not recorded. A 45-pair hand-check against live t.me pages found 14 (31%) where the live page shows a forward header naming the other channel and the database has none, plus 4 more (9%) naming a third party. The text match itself was wrong 0 times out of 45. Read attribution_capture.items_in_trusted_window before treating the unattributed count as a claim.

Telegram lets a channel forward a post with a header naming the source, and we only began reliably recording that header on 2026-08-06. 2 of the 3 matches recorded here fall after that date and carried no header when we read them. The rest predate reliable capture and are not evidence either way.

“Published first” means first in this corpus. We hold 13 comparable posts for this entry, running 29 July 2026 to 7 August 2026. A channel we have read one page deep will look younger than a neighbour we have read in full, and the order would flip with no change in the underlying facts.

The detector’s own notes on this observation, as it recorded them. Names in this_style are fields of the underlying evidence record, which the plain-English paragraphs above read out for this entry.

  • Verbatim republication has three causes and the text separates only two: a clone/mirror, unattributed copy-paste, or BOTH channels copying a common third source that neither attributes. The spread filter (content held by at most 8 channels) reduces the third and does not remove it.
  • 'Earliest' means earliest IN THIS CORPUS. A channel ingested one page deep will look younger than a neighbour ingested in full; corpus_coverage above is there to be checked before the direction is believed.
  • shared_verified_est extrapolates the sampled pass rate over the full narrow match count; sampled/passed are the numbers actually measured.
  • Absence of a forward header is not proof of intent: Telegram lets a channel disable forward attribution, and a credit written in the body is not parsed as attribution here (mention_edge_either_way above is the closest available signal).

Across the whole group of 2, the earliest publisher we hold is @vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam — which is this entry. That is a statement about our reading window, not a claim of authorship.

Recorded under the key clone_mutual, last confirmed 7 August 2026. An observation that a later pass no longer finds is cleared, and a cleared observation is removed from this page rather than being shown struck through — we do not keep publishing a claim we have withdrawn. Dispute an observation.

Also posting the same content

This channel’s posts match, word for word or near enough, posts on 1 other registered channel, found by comparing text fingerprints across every channel on the register. That matching has been checked by hand against the live Telegram pages and found reliable — 0 wrong of 45 pairs re-read.

Which channel, if either, published first is deliberately not shown. The same hand-check found that reading wrong 18 of 45 times — 60%, no better than a coin flip — because it depends on how deep our own crawl happened to reach into each channel’s history, not on when the content was actually first posted. This list is ordered by subscriber count, the same as every other listing on this site, never by which channel we think came first. Word-for-word matching has several ordinary explanations besides copying — a channel mirroring itself, an unattributed repost, or two channels independently repeating the same wire story — and this measurement cannot tell those apart. How this is measured.

Growth

7,0607,3977,228.57 August 2026 — 7,397 subscribers7 August 2026 — 7,397 subscribers8 August 2026 — 7,390 subscribers11 August 2026 — 7,353 subscribers14 August 2026 — 7,313 subscribers17 August 2026 — 7,290 subscribers20 August 2026 — 7,271 subscribers24 August 2026 — 7,242 subscribers26 August 2026 — 7,230 subscribers29 August 2026 — 7,214 subscribers1 September 2026 — 7,200 subscribers5 September 2026 — 7,184 subscribers10 September 2026 — 7,165 subscribers13 September 2026 — 7,140 subscribers17 September 2026 — 7,105 subscribers26 September 2026 — 7,060 subscribers7 August 202626 September 2026
16 measurements spanning 50 days, net -337. Dots are measurements; the straight line between them is drawn to join them, not to claim we know the path taken in between — snapshots are recorded only when a count changes, so gaps mean “no change observed”, never “interpolated”. The vertical axis spans 7,009–7,448 and does not start at zero.
Measurement log — every subscribers count we have recorded
Measured (UTC)SubscribersChange
26 Sept 2026, 07:587,060-45
17 Sept 2026, 21:017,105-35
13 Sept 2026, 19:007,140-25
10 Sept 2026, 03:567,165-19
5 Sept 2026, 01:377,184-16
1 Sept 2026, 15:297,200-14
29 Aug 2026, 15:047,214-16
26 Aug 2026, 20:277,230-12
24 Aug 2026, 05:127,242-29
20 Aug 2026, 10:537,271-19
17 Aug 2026, 14:597,290-23
14 Aug 2026, 10:167,313-40
11 Aug 2026, 09:487,353-37
8 Aug 2026, 05:067,390-7
7 Aug 2026, 07:007,397no change
7 Aug 2026, 06:547,397first reading

Engagement

24 posts held, back to 29 July 2026 — the reader has not yet reached the start of this channel’s public history, so older posts may sit further back, unread. Read across 14 pages of Telegram’s post history, 20 posts per page.

Nothing published in the last 30 days. ERR and ER are rolling 30-day measures, so there is nothing to compute — we hold 24 posts for this entry, the most recent from 20 August 2026. An engagement rate over an empty window would be a number about nothing.

Reaction mix

24 reactions across 13 posts, in 4 distinct kinds. The most used accounts for 41.7% of them.

Every reaction kind recorded on the sample, most used first
ReactionCountShareShare, drawn
👍1041.7%
😁625.0%
❤416.7%
🔥416.7%

No sentiment is inferred, and none should be read in. This table is ordered by count and by nothing else. Emoji do not carry stable meaning across languages or communities — 🙏 is thanks in one channel and mourning in another — so we publish which ones were pressed and how often, and pass no judgement on what an audience meant by them.

Precision. Telegram publishes reaction counts per emoji and short-forms each one — 4.34K, 1.2M — so any single kind at or above 1,000 reaches us at three significant figures, and only counts below 1,000 are exact. The shares above are ratios of those figures and carry the same error. This is also why the total here can differ slightly from a reaction total printed elsewhere on the page: both are sums of the same rounded parts, taken over samples with different edges.

Coverage. Reactions were read on 13 of the 24 sampled posts in this sample. Summed by Telegram’s own count on each post — not by adding up the per-emoji breakdown above — those same posts carry 24 reactions in total: the kind of figure the paragraph above means by “a reaction total printed elsewhere on the page”.

Measured over the 24 most recent posts we hold, published 29 July 2026 to 20 August 2026, using the newest reading held for each. Telegram Stars are excluded: they are a payment, not a reaction, and they have their own section.

Recent posts

20 Aug 2026, 05:48 UTC22 viewsread 20 August 2026
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Вернули 251 тысячу для клиента по ТБанку по кредиту взятому в сентябре 2023 года Начали работу в начале июля и вчера добились возврата. По тбанку дольше срок, но возвращает полную сумму Если у вас тоже есть кредит или кредитка в тбанке, то напишите менеджеру, проверим что можно вернуть @verni_svoe_menedzher

17 Aug 2026, 06:47 UTC48 views1 reactionsread 20 August 2026
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💳 Вернули 266 675 ₽ по кредитной карте Т-Банка Карта была оформлена в июле 2023 года. Клиентка обратилась к нам в начале июля — буквально перед тем, как карте исполнилось 3 года. И не зря 👀 Наши юристы добились возврата 266 675 ₽ за страховку. ⏱️ Весь процесс занял 40 дней. Сначала клиентке пришло 216 000 ₽, а затем отдельными выплатами ещё 50 675 ₽. В итоге — 266 675 ₽ обратно. А после получения денег она нап…

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13 Aug 2026, 13:22 UTC62 views1 reactionsread 20 August 2026
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«Да там всего 2 400 руб. страховки в месяц».А теперь посмотрите, что происходит с кредитом на самом деле На первый взгляд кажется, что 2 400 руб. в месяц — не такая уж большая сумма. Но давайте посмотрим на реальный график платежей нашего клиента. Кредит был оформлен 18.11.2023 на 480 тыс руб. Каждый месяц клиент вносил около 16 тыс руб., из них стабильно 2 400 руб. уходили на страховку. Зелёная колонка «Платёж по …

👍1

12 Aug 2026, 12:13 UTC58 viewsread 20 August 2026
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Естественно вам банк после всех проверок скажет, что возврат невозможен. Если бы было все так просто и можно было просто в чат написать, то зачем мы нужны были бы вообще? Маленькие суммы еще есть вероятность, что банк сможет вам вернуть в рамках лояльности. Но всё существенное надо добиваться от них. Вот здесь пример как мы это делаем, здесь банк тоже говорил невозможно, а на следующий день сделал возврат Да и в ц…

11 Aug 2026, 14:51 UTC56 viewsread 20 August 2026
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Если говорить словами клиента, то мы скажем: Мы ЗНАЕМ, что страховку вам навязали. Мы МОЖЕМ это доказать и ВЕРНУТЬ вам переплату за неё. Именно это мы сделали для клиента, которого цитировали выше 😌 107 789 руб — столько мы вернули ему за страховку по кредиту Альфа-Банка, оформленному в 2024 году. ❗️Страховка составляла целых 25% от суммы кредита Наши юристы доказали, что услуга была навязана, и добились полного в…

10 Aug 2026, 14:03 UTC60 views2 reactionsread 20 August 2026
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А вы любите дождь? 🌧️ ☔️ А если мы скажем, что это дождь из денег? 😏 Именно такой «дождь из СМС» сегодня обрушился на нашу клиентку — она прислала нам скриншоты с возвратами и написала: «РЕБЯТА!!!! Мне тут дождь из СМС посыпался» 😂 А все почему? Потому что мы вернули 65 120 руб по её кредитной карте Т-Банка, открытой в 2025 году, за подключенную без ее согласия услугу "Страхование задолженности" ⏱️ На возврат ушло…

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9 Aug 2026, 12:28 UTC58 viewsread 20 August 2026
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Вернули 156 582 руб за доп услуги по двум кредитным картам Т-Банка и Альфа-Банка Сначала 91 409 руб вернули по закрытой кредитной карте ТБанка за 29 дней Подробнее об этом кейсе рассказывали здесь И вот недавно пришёл возврат по второй кредитной карте, открытой в Альфа-Банке, нам удалось вернуть 65 460 руб. Карта была оформлена в 2024 году и до сих пор действует. Наши юристы изначально подавали заявление на возвра…

8 Aug 2026, 09:48 UTC64 viewsread 20 August 2026
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Вернули 87 624 ₽ по кредиту Совкомбанка за 28 дней 💥 💥 💥 На первый взгляд клиент был уверен, что возвращать уже нечего. Когда-то он случайно заметил в приложении банка одну из подключенных услуг и самостоятельно отключил ее. За нее банк действительно вернул деньги. Он решил, что на этом всё. Но на всякий случай отправил нам кредитный договор на проверку. И не зря 😏 Оказалось, что вместе с кредитом было подключен…

7 Aug 2026, 09:56 UTC66 views3 reactionsread 20 August 2026
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Все, больше никаких кредиток:

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7 Aug 2026, 06:36 UTC72 views3 reactionsread 20 August 2026
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Вернули 120 702 руб страховки по кредиту Ренессанс Банка за 47 дней ⚡⚡⚡ Кредит был оформлен 26 мая 2025 года на 743 тыс руб. При проверке договора нашли страховку на 554 тыс руб (это 75% от суммы кредита!) В этом кейсе наши юристы сделали всё возможное, но вернуть удалось не всю сумму. Банк клиенту вернул лишь 120 702 руб . Считаем честным рассказывать не только о случаях, когда удается вернуть всю страховку, но …

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6 Aug 2026, 14:32 UTC60 viewsread 19 August 2026

Отзыв клиента: Изначально не особо верил, что возможно вернуть деньги по закрытому продукту А зря) Потому что наши юристы знают, как вернуть переплаты даже по уже закрытым продуктам 😎

6 Aug 2026, 14:32 UTC53 viewsread 12 August 2026
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Спасибо большое за работу, получилось все очень быстро и оперативно. 3 августа обращение было подано, 5го уже вернулись деньги. Изначально не особо верил, что возможно вернуть деньги по закрытому продукту

Showing the 12 most recent of 24 posts we hold for @vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam. View and reaction counts are the latest single reading for each post, not a live figure, and a recent post is still accumulating both. A view count marked ≈ was rounded by Telegram before we ever saw it — t.me prints views in full below 1,000 and to three significant figures above, so ≈1,200,000 means somewhere between 1,150,000 and 1,249,999. Unmarked counts are exact. Text is reproduced from the public post preview and truncated for length.

Posts edited after publishing

@vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam edited 1 post after it first published — the same permalink now carries different wording than the one this register originally read, caught because our own crawl held a copy of the earlier text.

An edit is not deception. Typo fixes, price updates and corrections look exactly like this too — this register can tell you the wording changed and when, not why. How this is measured.

First edit seen
12 August 2026
Most recent edit
12 August 2026

Mentions

Names

Channels on the register whose handles appear in this channel's posts.

A mention is a weaker signal than a forward and is counted separately for that reason — naming a channel is not republishing it, and a handle in a post body is easy to place deliberately. The post counts beside each row below are distinct posts in which the handle appeared, from posts we have read on both sides — the “Named by N registered channels” figure above is a different count, of distinct NAMING CHANNELS rather than posts, and is not the sum of the rows under it.

Cite this entry

A live page changes as we take new readings, so a citation should name the measurement it is based on, not just the URL. The line below cites the subscriber count as measured 26 September 2026 — this entry's latest reading, not the date you are reading this.

“Возврат переплат по кредиту” (@vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam), 7,060 subscribers as measured 26 September 2026. Telegram Register, tgregister.com/channel/vozvrat_pereplat_po_kreditam.

Full measurement history, CC BY 4.0. Every reading this register holds for this entry, not just the latest one, as a dated, downloadable record: CSV · JSON. Free to use with attribution to tgregister.com. Each file carries its own generation timestamp, which is the figure to cite for exactly when the data was retrieved.